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		<title>By: freedomwriter</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetcases.com/2009/08/13/is-banning-sex-offenders-from-social-networking-sites-constitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-40987</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops forgot one....

A study by a California newspaper of nearly five hundred released sex offenders who legally resided near schools and day care facilities found that only one was rearrested during the one year period of the study, and that was on a charge of parole violation and not for another sexual assault.10 A Minnesota Department of Corrections study found that only two recidivist acts of child sexual assault were committed in parks on unknown victims and in those two instances the assaults occurred several miles away from the offenders’ homes. This fact resulted in the Department concluding that residency restrictions would not be effective in deterring the offender who wanted to harm again.

Time to stop wasting millions in money and resources on the non dangerous and focus on those that really deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops forgot one&#8230;.</p>
<p>A study by a California newspaper of nearly five hundred released sex offenders who legally resided near schools and day care facilities found that only one was rearrested during the one year period of the study, and that was on a charge of parole violation and not for another sexual assault.10 A Minnesota Department of Corrections study found that only two recidivist acts of child sexual assault were committed in parks on unknown victims and in those two instances the assaults occurred several miles away from the offenders’ homes. This fact resulted in the Department concluding that residency restrictions would not be effective in deterring the offender who wanted to harm again.</p>
<p>Time to stop wasting millions in money and resources on the non dangerous and focus on those that really deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomwriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We strive to protect children with these laws yet some of those on the &quot;sex offender&quot; list are children themselves. There are hundreds of thousands adults on the &quot;sex offender&quot; lists that never commited a crime against children.  Some have commited a single misdemeanor involving neither a child or minor. 95% of &quot;sex &quot;offenders&quot; as defined by todays law are not even dangerous at all. These people can no longer be affective parents to their own children because of the restrictions , harrasement, and stigma. The children themselves are sometimes harrased! So in an effort to save children we have ruined the lives of tens of thousands of more children. Real smart thinking.

Is that also not tragic? Certainly not murderous child molesting rapist tragic but tragic none the less. If you think it isnt tragic take the time to talk to one of their kids. There is tens of thousands of them to choose from all over this country.

The fact is that kids are more often hurt by people they know and not strangers. The media reports and hypes the &quot;stranger danger&quot; cases because they are sensational compared to uncle Chester touching little Sally. There is no sensationalism in that. So chew on these facts...

A 2003 Department of Justice study found that only 7% of incarcerated child sex offenders in prison in 1997 were there for crimes where the victim and assailant were strangers.
Another study found that no more than 10% of child molestations are committed by strangers to the victims.
Additionally as defendants point out, a 1997 report from the Department of Justice indicated that only 3% of sexual assaults against children under 12 years old were perpetrated by strangers as were only 11% of sexual assaults against children 13 to 17 years old. Likewise a 2000 report from the same agency indicated that as to victims 5 years old or younger, only 3.1% of the crimes were committed by strangers and as to children age 6-11, only 4.7%.
The implication of these and countless other studies is that laws designed to protect our children, to be effective, should focus on preventing sex offenders from harming children whom they know, not fixated on preventing the rare attacks by strangers.

Those words come straight from a Kentucky district court judge. The numbers straight fomr our own gevernments DOJ.
If you want to go look it up. 
COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY
KENTON DISTRICT COURT
FOURTH DIVISION
CASE Numbers, 07-M-00604, 06-M-5879
06-M-5885, 06-M-5932, 06-M-5915, 06-M-5920,
06-M-6814, 06-M-6031, 06-M-5834,
06-M-5930, and 06-M-5866</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We strive to protect children with these laws yet some of those on the &#8220;sex offender&#8221; list are children themselves. There are hundreds of thousands adults on the &#8220;sex offender&#8221; lists that never commited a crime against children.  Some have commited a single misdemeanor involving neither a child or minor. 95% of &#8220;sex &#8220;offenders&#8221; as defined by todays law are not even dangerous at all. These people can no longer be affective parents to their own children because of the restrictions , harrasement, and stigma. The children themselves are sometimes harrased! So in an effort to save children we have ruined the lives of tens of thousands of more children. Real smart thinking.</p>
<p>Is that also not tragic? Certainly not murderous child molesting rapist tragic but tragic none the less. If you think it isnt tragic take the time to talk to one of their kids. There is tens of thousands of them to choose from all over this country.</p>
<p>The fact is that kids are more often hurt by people they know and not strangers. The media reports and hypes the &#8220;stranger danger&#8221; cases because they are sensational compared to uncle Chester touching little Sally. There is no sensationalism in that. So chew on these facts&#8230;</p>
<p>A 2003 Department of Justice study found that only 7% of incarcerated child sex offenders in prison in 1997 were there for crimes where the victim and assailant were strangers.<br />
Another study found that no more than 10% of child molestations are committed by strangers to the victims.<br />
Additionally as defendants point out, a 1997 report from the Department of Justice indicated that only 3% of sexual assaults against children under 12 years old were perpetrated by strangers as were only 11% of sexual assaults against children 13 to 17 years old. Likewise a 2000 report from the same agency indicated that as to victims 5 years old or younger, only 3.1% of the crimes were committed by strangers and as to children age 6-11, only 4.7%.<br />
The implication of these and countless other studies is that laws designed to protect our children, to be effective, should focus on preventing sex offenders from harming children whom they know, not fixated on preventing the rare attacks by strangers.</p>
<p>Those words come straight from a Kentucky district court judge. The numbers straight fomr our own gevernments DOJ.<br />
If you want to go look it up.<br />
COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY<br />
KENTON DISTRICT COURT<br />
FOURTH DIVISION<br />
CASE Numbers, 07-M-00604, 06-M-5879<br />
06-M-5885, 06-M-5932, 06-M-5915, 06-M-5920,<br />
06-M-6814, 06-M-6031, 06-M-5834,<br />
06-M-5930, and 06-M-5866</p>
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		<title>By: ronie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not a good idea to suspend the constitution in some cases just because the constitution does not get up and do a little dance for your common sense.

It was done in the Salem which trials and later for persons that were accused of being mentally retarded by someone else, without basis in fact.

Africans were given a status that didn&#039;t allow them any rights because of skin color.

 Japanese Americans were interred during WWII just because someone&#039;s sense said that they were high risk to the country.

Somewhere near 90% of sex crimes never get convictions or are never even reported.  So many of your neighbors may have at some point commited a sex crime and just were never reported or never convicted. 

If the sex offender registry was narrowed to only a few dangerous individuals
then these dangerous persons would be much easier to keep track of and much less likely to be hidden in a registry that is too broad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not a good idea to suspend the constitution in some cases just because the constitution does not get up and do a little dance for your common sense.</p>
<p>It was done in the Salem which trials and later for persons that were accused of being mentally retarded by someone else, without basis in fact.</p>
<p>Africans were given a status that didn&#8217;t allow them any rights because of skin color.</p>
<p> Japanese Americans were interred during WWII just because someone&#8217;s sense said that they were high risk to the country.</p>
<p>Somewhere near 90% of sex crimes never get convictions or are never even reported.  So many of your neighbors may have at some point commited a sex crime and just were never reported or never convicted. </p>
<p>If the sex offender registry was narrowed to only a few dangerous individuals<br />
then these dangerous persons would be much easier to keep track of and much less likely to be hidden in a registry that is too broad.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moreno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Moreno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a father of three girls. I am aware of the risks that my daughters run in their everyday lives. If there is no doubt of the crime committed I do not believe that because of time spent in jail all sins should be forgotten. social networking is a very direct way to reach a target population of individuals who are quite impressionable. and in the same way that a child molester is not allowed to live near a school neither should they be allowed to participate in this type of networking. I know it is a long shot to make the world a safer place but it is a way to take a step forward in what I consider is a good direction. What I am triyng to say is that at one point common sense should overrule law and &quot;constitutionality&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a father of three girls. I am aware of the risks that my daughters run in their everyday lives. If there is no doubt of the crime committed I do not believe that because of time spent in jail all sins should be forgotten. social networking is a very direct way to reach a target population of individuals who are quite impressionable. and in the same way that a child molester is not allowed to live near a school neither should they be allowed to participate in this type of networking. I know it is a long shot to make the world a safer place but it is a way to take a step forward in what I consider is a good direction. What I am triyng to say is that at one point common sense should overrule law and &#8220;constitutionality&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Vibrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vibrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some interesting facts about Australia, 1 in 3 women have a vibrator, over 1.5 million  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vibrator.com.au&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vibrators&lt;/a&gt;  are sold each year here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting facts about Australia, 1 in 3 women have a vibrator, over 1.5 million  <a href="http://www.vibrator.com.au" rel="nofollow">vibrators</a>  are sold each year here.</p>
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		<title>By: Honest Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honest Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe states, &quot;In general, the way we have started treating sex offenders is bordering on unconstitutional. Yes, they have committed some of the most heinous crimes people are capable of, yet we continue to restrict where they may live, work, or even which homeless shelters can take them in even AFTER they have served their prison sentences.&quot;
The law&#039;s interpretation is described in Doe v. Poritz 

* Everyone who is labeled a sex offender has NOT committed the most Heinous crimes people are capable of.  A sex offender is a person who has committed any sex offense. Sadly the legislators quest to capture as many sex offenders as they could was definitely was the wrong path.  Public notification of everyone listed is the problem here.  It was never the intention of the courts! Placing any restrictions on past offenders who do not pose a threat is troublesome. 
The legislators are not being honest or fair. They chose not to follow the laws intent, reasoning or actual purpose. Their &quot;INTENT&quot; is to act as vigilante and appear  tough on sex offenders for personal popularity. Their interest is not in protecting  their constituents who are unfairly harmed by misguided laws.   
 I have listed a few cases and the opinions are noted. I&#039;ve NEVER heard a legislator express these opinions and you never will.  
See  E.B. v.  Verniero, supra at 1089;  Doe v. Attorney Gen. (No. 2), 425 Mass. 217, 222 (1997). Cf.  Opinion of the  Justices, supra at 1226 (noting severe consequences that community notification may have). If public availability of information about the plaintiff serves no remedial purpose, that availability is unnecessary to provide protection for those whom the act was designed to protect. See  State v.  Ward, 123 Wash. 2d 488, 503 (1994) (&quot;Absent evidence [that the offender poses a threat to the community], disclosure would serve no legitimate purpose. 
The New Jersey Supreme Court, in John Doe v. Poritz, 142 N.J. 1, 662 A.2d 367 (1995), upheld the New Jersey statute, although it imposed certain procedural protections under federal and state law. 
My question is, if NJ  tier system was devised for protecting  tier 1 offenders from any open notification, as they are considered to be free to reestablish their good standing in the community. Why do NJ  legislators  include  ALL sex offenders listed, even tier 1 offenders when crafting their additional  restrictions? Isn&#039;t  this in violation of the NJ law? Why would any, NJ tier 1 offender be subject to restrictions in other states?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe states, &#8220;In general, the way we have started treating sex offenders is bordering on unconstitutional. Yes, they have committed some of the most heinous crimes people are capable of, yet we continue to restrict where they may live, work, or even which homeless shelters can take them in even AFTER they have served their prison sentences.&#8221;<br />
The law&#8217;s interpretation is described in Doe v. Poritz </p>
<p>* Everyone who is labeled a sex offender has NOT committed the most Heinous crimes people are capable of.  A sex offender is a person who has committed any sex offense. Sadly the legislators quest to capture as many sex offenders as they could was definitely was the wrong path.  Public notification of everyone listed is the problem here.  It was never the intention of the courts! Placing any restrictions on past offenders who do not pose a threat is troublesome.<br />
The legislators are not being honest or fair. They chose not to follow the laws intent, reasoning or actual purpose. Their &#8220;INTENT&#8221; is to act as vigilante and appear  tough on sex offenders for personal popularity. Their interest is not in protecting  their constituents who are unfairly harmed by misguided laws.<br />
 I have listed a few cases and the opinions are noted. I&#8217;ve NEVER heard a legislator express these opinions and you never will.<br />
See  E.B. v.  Verniero, supra at 1089;  Doe v. Attorney Gen. (No. 2), 425 Mass. 217, 222 (1997). Cf.  Opinion of the  Justices, supra at 1226 (noting severe consequences that community notification may have). If public availability of information about the plaintiff serves no remedial purpose, that availability is unnecessary to provide protection for those whom the act was designed to protect. See  State v.  Ward, 123 Wash. 2d 488, 503 (1994) (&#8220;Absent evidence [that the offender poses a threat to the community], disclosure would serve no legitimate purpose.<br />
The New Jersey Supreme Court, in John Doe v. Poritz, 142 N.J. 1, 662 A.2d 367 (1995), upheld the New Jersey statute, although it imposed certain procedural protections under federal and state law.<br />
My question is, if NJ  tier system was devised for protecting  tier 1 offenders from any open notification, as they are considered to be free to reestablish their good standing in the community. Why do NJ  legislators  include  ALL sex offenders listed, even tier 1 offenders when crafting their additional  restrictions? Isn&#8217;t  this in violation of the NJ law? Why would any, NJ tier 1 offender be subject to restrictions in other states?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general, the way we have started treating sex offenders is bordering on unconstitutional.  Yes, they have committed some of the most heinous crimes people are capable of, yet we continue to restrict where they may live, work, or even which homeless shelters can take them in even AFTER they have served their prison sentences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, the way we have started treating sex offenders is bordering on unconstitutional.  Yes, they have committed some of the most heinous crimes people are capable of, yet we continue to restrict where they may live, work, or even which homeless shelters can take them in even AFTER they have served their prison sentences.</p>
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		<title>By: RWV</title>
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		<dc:creator>RWV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about an equal protection challenge?  That seems to me a more poignant question.  First Amendment rights are fundamental.  The sex offender has as much right as the next guy to participate in political speeh via the Internet (indeed, he has more reasons to because of his unique position as a persona non grata).  Religious expression over the Internet?  Doesn&#039;t the sex offender retain that right?  Suppose it&#039;s a Christian-based social networking site for the purpose of proclaiming the Gospel.  How can the sex offender be denied this right without running afoul of the 14th/1st Amendment fundamentals?  Like so many of the new laws aimed at sex offenders, these social networking prohibitions are theater. They keep people elected  My only hope is that the federal bench is receptive to the obvious Constitutional arguments against the laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about an equal protection challenge?  That seems to me a more poignant question.  First Amendment rights are fundamental.  The sex offender has as much right as the next guy to participate in political speeh via the Internet (indeed, he has more reasons to because of his unique position as a persona non grata).  Religious expression over the Internet?  Doesn&#8217;t the sex offender retain that right?  Suppose it&#8217;s a Christian-based social networking site for the purpose of proclaiming the Gospel.  How can the sex offender be denied this right without running afoul of the 14th/1st Amendment fundamentals?  Like so many of the new laws aimed at sex offenders, these social networking prohibitions are theater. They keep people elected  My only hope is that the federal bench is receptive to the obvious Constitutional arguments against the laws.</p>
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